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divineirony:

goodreasonnews:

baseballlibertarian:

I’d move in a heart beat. 

Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch—free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be “a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons.”

“There are quite a lot of people who think it’s not possible,” Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) “That’s a good thing. We don’t need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don’t think it’s possible they won’t take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it’s too late.”

Will the sale of under age prostitutes/pornography, rocket launchers and assault rifles, and uninspected, dangerous vehicles, appliances and other products be legal? Will homes need to meet any standards and if so, isn’t that regulation of the market? Will exploitation of underage, underpaid and overworked workers be legal?

Is libertarianism just isolationism? Is the idea of creating some libertarian utopia a betrayal? Are these people turning their backs on America?

Loving GoodReasonNews’ comments. Sounds like heaven: live in a house with no building codes, next to a power plant with no environmental regulations and next door to a guy who can own any assault rifle or explosives he likes; A place where police serve the highest bidder and your 15yr old can buy vodka, a pack of ciggies and a hooker with his allowance. What could go wrong?

Exactly, but bring up this point to any libertarian I guarantee you they’ll dismiss you and say you’re being silly. Know why? Because they don’t really believe what they say. If they did they’d advocate everything you say. They’re just Republicans, trying to give hostage-holding big businesses the advantages they want over the working man. That’s all a libertarian really is, or else they’re someone who’s been duped by charismatic libertarian’s who have freed them of the burden of siding with the uncool Evangelical style social conservative while still getting to cling to those ideals.

It’s hypocrisy and it’s a scam.

Are you for or against gay marriage?

Liberal: For, every consenting adult deserves the right

Conservative: Against, some bullshit about sky daddy’s ancient rules!

Libertarian: GOV’T SHOULDN’T BE INVOLVED IN MARRIAGE AT ALL, 10 BONUS POINTS FOR DODGING QUESTION WHILE ACTING SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE ELSE!

It’s an impractical response to a real world question. At least some of us are acknowledging that there are real human lives and not just ideals at stake here. It’s all well and good for you to sit there and bitch about gov’t and marriage, but you ain’t every gonna separate the two. At best, that’s a free-market radical’s idealist pipe dream. In reality, however, there are people trying to control your family and the question isn’t ‘how should we rebuild the entire political system and tax code as to free us from the responsibility of making this call,” it’s “what fucking side are you on?”

Source : moralanarchism

Creating a Libertarian island? →

baseballlibertarian:

I’d move in a heart beat. 

Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch—free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be “a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons.”

“There are quite a lot of people who think it’s not possible,” Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) “That’s a good thing. We don’t need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don’t think it’s possible they won’t take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it’s too late.”

Will the sale of under age prostitutes/pornography, rocket launchers and assault rifles, and uninspected, dangerous vehicles, appliances and other products be legal? Will homes need to meet any standards and if so, isn’t that regulation of the market? Will exploitation of underage, underpaid and overworked workers be legal?

Is libertarianism just isolationism? Is the idea of creating some libertarian utopia a betrayal? Are these people turning their backs on America?

(via muchtoocynical)

Source : moralanarchism

Please take note of Michelle Bachmann’s following. Batshit crazy adults who act like children play dress up and yell in phony accents about revolution. We’d all love to change his head.

Paul Krugman doing what he does best →

atribecalledtribunal:

“What makes America look unreliable isn’t budget math, it’s politics. And please, let’s not have the usual declarations that both sides are at fault. Our problems are almost entirely one-sided — specifically, they’re caused by the rise of an extremist right that is prepared to create repeated crises rather than give an inch on its demands.”

Source : atribecalledtribunal

How Rick Perry created all those jobs | Partisan Gridlock | a Chron.com blog →

The question isn’t whether Texas has created jobs, it clearly has. The question is: How, and at what cost?

Perry said in a recent interview on Fox that it’s a simple formula:

For me a red flag always goes up as soon as someone comes along, approaches a complex international problem and declares the answer ‘simple.’

Few government regulations, severe limitations on the right to sue and low taxation. Again, Perry’s right. Do those things and businesses will come to the state and create jobs.

When conservatives and libertarian whack-jobs say this I always wonder if they’re just trying to create an America where worker’s rights and unions never existed. Don’t they see that if they eliminate unions and worker’s rights people are just going to get fed up with being abused and start them up again. What’s the good they hope to influence?

What he didn’t mention was what, other job creation, happens when you give business everything it wants.

Of course tax breaks for multi-billion dollar corporations incentivize businesses to expand. They also cost the state money that it needs for schools. Given a choice, Rick Perry’s Texas went with tax breaks. Now the state’s laying off as many as 100,000 teachers. That’s not likely to help Texas improve its current high school graduation rank of 36th in the nation.

By the way, go home and ask your parents why they chose to move into the town you live in now. If they weren’t raised there or they didn’t have families there, most likely the answer will be “it was close to work and there are good schools.” Good schools is one of the top reasons people move anywhere and it’s how town’s develop. When populations develop, retailers moves in. It all starts with good schools. Perry’s got it backwards.

If chemical companies didn’t have to comply with both state and federal regulations, they could hire thousands of people. So Perry’s administration not only refuses to regulate them in any meaningful way, but attacks the federal government when it does. Texas now has a thriving chemical industry and the largest levels of airborne carcinogens in the nation.

Corporate responsibility and compliance with law are inconvenient. Making a mistake and getting sued for it is expensive. So Perry, his appointees and allies have enacted tort “reform” so draconian that now, businesses are free to do whatever they want to their employees and consumers literally without consequence. New laws and radical right-wing judges (many of them appointed by Perry) have not “limited” lawsuits, but effectively prevented entire classes of people from seeking justice of any kind.

Remember kids, ‘Tort reform’ is nothing more than a confusing term created by tobacco lobbyists to prevent American citizens from having their day in court against corporate criminals.

Today, even if a jury awards you damages against a corporation, there’s about an 87% chance that the all-Republican Texas Supreme Court (five of whose nine justices were appointed by Perry) will take it away from you, regardless of what the law says.

And that’s how they stack the deck against you: Appeals courts filled with business-always-wins republicans and unreasonable legislation like lawsuit caps.

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There needs to be more of this in the world.

jrichner1790:

jasonfowler:

Hahah

LOL

Plus, here’s the thing. Only the right wing and the stupidest of fucking libertarian dunderheads buy into this propaganda that the government is telling citizens what lightbulbs it can use. The facts are that the government is regulating what sort of light bulbs can be manufactured in an effort to curtail pollution. They’re raising the industry standard because the technology exists to make a safer product. If in, say, 1975, the government regulated all cars be electric by 1985 we wouldn’t be in the shithole oil wars we’ve been in for the last 20 years and cruel Islamic dictators wouldn’t have us by the economic balls and Exxon and BP wouldn’t be constantly dumping oil all over our environment and running fish dinners for everyone.
But, no, lets all pretend this is an issue of ‘liberty.’ ::rolls eyes::

jrichner1790:

jasonfowler:

Hahah

LOL

Plus, here’s the thing. Only the right wing and the stupidest of fucking libertarian dunderheads buy into this propaganda that the government is telling citizens what lightbulbs it can use. The facts are that the government is regulating what sort of light bulbs can be manufactured in an effort to curtail pollution. They’re raising the industry standard because the technology exists to make a safer product. If in, say, 1975, the government regulated all cars be electric by 1985 we wouldn’t be in the shithole oil wars we’ve been in for the last 20 years and cruel Islamic dictators wouldn’t have us by the economic balls and Exxon and BP wouldn’t be constantly dumping oil all over our environment and running fish dinners for everyone.

But, no, lets all pretend this is an issue of ‘liberty.’ ::rolls eyes::

(via johnlennonandcupcakes)

Source : jasonfowler
"Senator Who?" says NYC  Council Speaker Quinn repeatedly when asked at Gracie Mansion about  Ruben Diaz’s challenge to marriage equality.
"Senator Who?" says NYC Council Speaker Quinn repeatedly when asked at Gracie Mansion about Ruben Diaz’s challenge to marriage equality.

Cenk Uygur discusses a report on Fox News channel questioning how “poor” Americans really are. Cenk breaks down this ridiculous report by Stuart Varney.

Please let me punch this right-wing fucker in the mouth

White Supremacist Picks Fight with Boxing Champ →

namelessgenxer:

Dumb Fucking Hick Fail.

When 28-year-old white supremacist Daren Abbey began threatening Marlon Baker at an Idaho bar and threatened to stab him because “blacks are not welcome” there, he might have read the t-shirt Baker was wearing first, the Idaho Spokesman Review reports. It said, “Spokane Boxing Club Champion.”

Baker knocked Abbey unconscious with one punch. When Abbey woke up, he was arrested and charged with malicious harassment.

File this Idaho bar under: Things Ron Paul approves of.

(via womanistgamergirl)