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Should a Muslim man marry an atheist woman? GRN grabs the rebound!

Dear Prudie,
My girlfriend is a beautiful, funny, and intelligent young woman and I’m very lucky to have her in my life. We met in college, we know each other’s families, and are each other’s best friends. I’ve been with her for almost two years and I would like to start a life with her. There’s only one issue—as a Muslim, I feel my future wife has to believe in God. I’m not the strictest of Muslims, I occasionally drink and don’t follow everything written in the Quran, but my girlfriend is an atheist. She says she’s open to believing, but that is a requirement in order for our marriage to be valid within Islam and so that we can marry in a mosque. I want that not only for religious reasons but because it’s a cultural and familial tradition. We’ve talked about her converting but it’s usually ended up with us brushing it aside or with her being hurt because she says I can’t love her for who she is. Of course I love her and want to be with her but I also want my future marriage to be validated by my religion and accepted by God. But I don’t want to pressure her into converting, either. What do I do?

—Feeling Lost

Hang on, Prudie, I got this one.

Dear Feeling Lost,

Your religion is a sham and its using you to further its self. You see, like any other institution, religions’ number one goal is the preservation and promulgation of the institution itself. So Islam, which is just a corrupt institution, just like the fast food industry or child-sweat-shop-made sneakers or corporate radio. And, like those industries, Islam is trying to make a customer out of your girlfriend and a more loyal customer out of you. Institutions do this through advertising. “Beef! It’s what’s for dinner!” The point of this ad is, ‘hey, you’re gonna eat dinner, you gotta eat beef.” It’s inserting itself into your life by implying that the normal, default position on dinner is that it’s a beef-centric meal. Other advertisements appeal to a sense of individualism. “The Pepsi Generation!” You know, you’re young, you’re cool, you drink a Pepsi, you don’t drink what the old man drank, you wanna be cool, right? I mean, you want to be a contributing member to the right culture (in this case youth culture) right? Finally, there are also ads that appeal to your sense of responsibility. Insurance companies are particularly fond of this one, you know, “are you in good hands?” It makes you think, ‘oh, fuck, if I get crushed by a meteor tomorrow, who’s gonna buy little Jane that baseball mitt she’s been wanting and how will junior afford ballet lessons on my partner’s measly salary? I better buy that insurance!’

Religion is all of these combined. It appeals to your sense of normalcy (phrases like “good Christian” don’t just assume the person’s morality, it also implies they’re familiar and trustworthy), it appeals to your sense of individualism (You don’t say, ‘I follow the Islamic faith,’ you say ‘I am a Muslim,’ it’s part of your self-identity.) and it appeals to your sense of responsibility as your question displays “I also want my future marriage to be validated by my religion and accepted by God” You love this woman, but you’re being irresponsible for not clearing it with God, even though you love her and the way you feel isn’t changing, you feel compelled to ask some kind of permission to accept the way you already feel. (Sidenote: Just curious if you’re aware of what God does to Muslims who marry atheists or other non-Muslims. If you guessed “nothing because there is no God,” you’re correct!)

See, Islam wants to wrap itself around important life events so that you keep coming back, a loyal customer. Like a smoker. When tobacco companies started facing advertising regulations, they upped the addictive chemical ratio in their products in order to keep their customers coming back. Religion arranges itself around the important milestones in people’s lives to keep you coming back. Births, puberty, weddings, funerals, and of course holidays. They’re times you’re compelled to visit the institution out of some misplaced guilt your parents instilled when you were young because it was instilled in them and so on and so on and turtles all the way down.

Want my advice? No?! Well, fuck it, I’m gonna give it anyway. Break the cycle of addiction to a corrupt institution bent on dominating people’s social structure and abandon Islam altogether. Be a humane parent and allow your children to grow up without the terror your parents and their religion imposed upon you and I know you’re terrified, because your question basically demands something unreasonable, that your wife lie to a deity (by saying she believes it when she obviously doesn’t) who you can’t even be sure exists, for whom you have so little faith exists that you disobey the rules he supposedly laid out (because you drink and shit). Asking for your wife to pretend to be a different woman to appease your superstition shows your weakness as a critical thinker, but it’s not to late for you. Step one: Never set foot in a mosque again. Step two: Throw your qu’ran away. Step three: Ignore other religions, they’re the same shit with different labels. (You can’t swear off Marlboros and start smoking Kools and tell people you quit smoking) Step Four: Enjoy freedom.
Source : Slate

Baby girl sacrificed on bonfire after sect leader says tot is the Antichrist, Chile cops say →

Here’s how religious beliefs cause harm. If he were right, that the child really was a demon from another dimension bent on leading humanity into destruction, the moral thing to do would probably be to kill it, right? Belief should be based on evidence. Evidence for the existence of demons or anti-Christs or Christs and whether or not this baby was involved require better knowledge than “I just believe it.” However, religion, all religion, teaches us to believe that way, without evidence. That’s faith. This is faith.

Translation: Fashion: Those who suffer from weak self-steam and lack of beliefs try to make themselves more appealing to others with fashion so they can hide their weaknesses.
Collection of Hijab Propaganda in Iran - Imgur

Translation: Fashion: Those who suffer from weak self-steam and lack of beliefs try to make themselves more appealing to others with fashion so they can hide their weaknesses.

Collection of Hijab Propaganda in Iran - Imgur

Stray observation: Why do we pretend that Islamist fundamentalism is not the same as right-wing extremism?

I get that there are anti-government racist right-wing extremists and there are Islamist extremists, but we should all acknowledge that within Islam, the terrorists are the right-wing faction of that cohort. Within the Islamic community the Islamists are at the far, far right. They’re the extreme Conservatives. Within the US Conservative community, anti-government racist right-wing extremists are at the far, far right. They’re the extreme Conservatives.


No matter which group you’re talking about, in any situation, they’re all right-wing extremists.

Old-world, ancient thinking, a dependence on tradition and nationalism, tribalism, religion links both groups. Liberal Muslims aren’t like this. Liberal Muslims vote for women like Benazir Bhutto. Liberal Muslims work for Hillary Clinton.

The movement away from God is also a journey. And in their journey, atheists can acquire, my friends included, certain problematic characteristics. They can, as the Qur’an tells us elsewhere, become arrogant (35:42-3, 39:59. 45:31) and insist that their path is the only true path and all else is irrational nonsense. They can become self-satisfied and engage in self-exaltation (27:14, 38:2), praising their own position sky high while denigrating, ridiculing or humiliating believers. They can, through political expediency or opportunism (35:42-43), try to privilege their own position in society. These and other similar characteristics gradually lead them to lose the ability to understand the very idea of religious truth. The ‘sealing’ of their hearts, as an act of God, is a product of the baggage they have picked up on their particular journey.

Ziauddin Sardar (2011) Reading the Qur’an: The Contemporary Relevance of the Sacred Text of Islam, Oxford Uni. Press, p. 76. (via abdullahbasaran)

Ad hom bullshit. Baggage I picked up? So the proposition here is that a god is real, but I can’t see it due to some tragic life event, described here the way I would describe ‘an actual education’ and ‘intellectual honesty.’ And I’m arrogant? What a crock of shit.

Source : abdullahbasaran

Islam's Moral Criminals →

More than 200 women in Kabul, Afghanistan, are packed into a six-year-old jail on charges of “moral crimes,” which may include leaving a possibly abusive husband, refusing to accept an arranged marriage, or leaving home with a man of their choice. Sixty-two children live with their imprisoned mothers, some of whom are serving sentences of 7 years or more. The Taliban’s fall from power was supposed to make life in this country better for women, and for a brief time it did. But the Karzai government has drifted, observers say, back in time towards the “old ways,” when women were viewed as property and given as bribes to settle disputes.

Uh, actually, when nudity could cost you your life, you do need saving. You don’t have to be nude to be liberated, but you can’t say you’re living freely if posting a topless picture of yourself means you could be stoned to death.

Uh, actually, when nudity could cost you your life, you do need saving. You don’t have to be nude to be liberated, but you can’t say you’re living freely if posting a topless picture of yourself means you could be stoned to death.

Source : thisblogisfortherats

How can this not be seen as oppression? Who doesn’t see oppression here?

Source : abuturab

How cute

currybunny:

Atheists that have no idea what’s going on in Bangladesh, or our history. Or our politics. Or our traditions. Are making “well informed” posts about the arrests.

Read up on my country before you make your ignorant comments on it.

Why don’t you just fill us in and tell us why they’re not appalling and inhumane freedom of speech violations?

Source : currybunny

little-veganite:

dopejonker:

A Muslim cleric has condemned to death Amina Tyler, a young 19 year old Tunisian who published a picture of herself topless, Amina posted on her Facebook account a picture with the phrase: “My body belongs to me, and is not the source of anyone’s honor.” She is a member of the group Femen, a feminist movement emerged in Ukraine in 2008 performing their topless protests to draw attention. The unusual protest sparked rejected her own family, which is considered a “insulting the modesty of a woman” and Islam.
“This young woman according to Islamic law deserves to between 80 and 100 lashes, but she did much more than that so she deserves to be stoned to death,” the religious Tunisian daily said “Assabah News” .

Amina represents us.
We the undersigned unequivocally defend Amina, and demand that her life and liberty are protected and that those who have threatened her will be immediately prosecuted.
Sign the petition here

(via fuckyeahsexyatheists)

Source : dopejonker