I’m not saying this guy killed his daughter because of The Bible. Clearly, he’s not of sound mind, but I find it interesting that he was able to rationalize murdering his daughter by being “at peace with god.”
Arthur Morgan III told his daughter, Tierra, that he loved her.
He gave her a kiss.
He placed the 21/2-year-old in a stream in Shark River Park in
And then he walked away.
Morgan, 29, who was homeless but whose last known address was in Eatontown, never denied placing his daughter in the stream, where her body was found the next day, strapped in a car seat that had been weighed down with a metal car jack attached to it.
But he claimed he blacked out and couldn’t remember whether he threw the child in the car seat off of a bridge and into the stream or if he walked down through some woods and placed her there.
He did explain how he attached the car jack to the baby’s car seat to weigh it down “like a ball and chain,” but he refused to acknowledge it was inevitable she would die as a result.
"When I left Tierra, Tierra was alive," Morgan told detectives.
“I’ve slept for about as long as I’ve been in that cell,” he said on the videotape. “Only because now I’m at peace. I’m a God-fearing man. I know my daughter is in heaven.”
Then, Morgan quoted a passage from the Bible.
"There’s a scripture, Matthew, 19:14. It says, ‘Let the little children come to me. Do not hinder them, for the Kingdom of Heaven is for thee,’" Morgan said.
Yup, I also find it frightening when they tell their children that they will burn for eternity just for thinking that there is no god, when they self flagellate, take honour in having their sons become martyrs, and when they literally spend hours a day at Islamic shrines praying, thinking that somehow the laws of the universe are going to change because they keep repeating a bunch of nonsense written in a book 1400 years ago.
What makes the asker think it was easy, I wonder. It’s not that easy to manipulate people on this level. You have to get them when they’re either very young or in a very vulnerable emotional place. That’s why religious education is primarily for children and people looking to rehabilitate or people in times of crisis. That’s called a captive audience and Islam, Christianity, Scientology and others have perfected the art of marketing to them.
I’ve actually gone back and forth between the two a lot over the last few years. I’m probably more agnostic but leaning towards atheism than theism.
The misconception is the term ‘agnostic’ lives on. Folks, ‘agnostic’ is not some halfway point between belief and not belief. Heck, ‘belief’ and ‘not belief’ aren’t even polar opposites. I don’t have a belief in a god, therefore, I’m an atheist. That’s not to say I believe there is no god (although if I did, I’d still be an atheist).
Basically, if you’re anything other than convinced there is a god, you’re an atheist.
And we see, ladies and gentleman, the very hate Christ predicted being hurled. I am a “son of a bitch” because I held to the biblical truth of sexual morality. This person glosses over the fact that I believe gays and lesbians are perfectly welcome in church, and as christians.
That is glossed over and the person HATES me because I did not lie about the words of the bible.
Keep on hating, you only prove my bible to be true.
lol, martyr complex, much?
Ye Olde Rage Against The Heavens Atheist trope.
Nearly as old this ancient Huckster himself.
So there was this Christian group in the atrium at my school, and they had all these signs posted everywhere with blank sticky notes to write your thoughts and opinions on. Someone wrote “Man created god, not the other way around,0 and my friend Kyle and I drew arrows to it and said “I agree.” And…
What does this religion do to people? It makes them forget their humanity in favor of this kind of bubbling aggression.
I actually have no clue if they’re real, pal. However, I take religions as having a moral code to look up to. Gods are role models. The Christian God is not for me. But I look up to the Norse gods as role models. They’re real to me, and that’s all they need to be.
Also, I didn’t say I understand the science behind the formation of the universe. But scientists are definitely closer to understanding it than you or me. It is foolish to assume I have more knowledge of the formation of the universe when the most I do that relates to the cosmos is watch an embarrassing amount of Star Trek.
And might I say how rude of you to insult my faith. A religion with one follower is just as valid as a religion with a million followers. Having more followers doesn’t prove a religion to be better. They just have a better sales pitch.
I agree with your last point, although I may phrase it “a religion with few followers is equally as ridiculous as a religion with many followers.”
To your other points, I must have been confused by you saying you understood the science behind the formation if the universe. Just like I’m confused about you saying the Norse gods are ‘real to you’ and also that they are just models to base your life on. I mean, you could base your morality on your favorite student at Hogwarts, but that doesn’t make it reasonable to believe it’s a real place even if the morality you get from it is real. Also, I don’t give a fuck about being rude, I prefer the truth.