Nativity ban? Churches thwart it by using living displays →

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goodreasonnews:

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goodreasonnews:

sidhetalk:

HAH! I love it. Atheists can’t ban that!

What exactly is to love about this? Churches have found a way to exploit a technicality so they can unconstitutionally use public grounds and, therefore, public resources and money to advertise their religious myth? Why can’t they be happy putting a display on their own church grounds? Churches have plenty of land, usually in areas of high visibility, with plenty of room for a Nativity display, living or otherwise. They don’t need to drain public funds to do it, they get enough of that by not having to pay taxes.

Unconstitutional my left cheek.

It is 100% constitutional to do what these people are doing.

I think your intolerance is showing.

This isn’t an argument, it’s just contradiction.

You can’t use public resources to advertise a religious belief, jackass.

You are a tool. You have absolutely no understanding of constitutional rights in America. Those people have EVERY RIGHT to dress up biblical and play act the Nativity. Try to arrest them or deny them, see what happens.

1) Asserting your opposition to my argument more forcefully doesn’t provide extra content. You haven’t addressed the crux of my argument, that is, that for a church to use public grounds to promote its views is unconstitutional. You can’t just scream THEY HAVE THE RIGHT BLARRGH!

2) I didn’t say they didn’t have the right nor did I say anything about arresting anyone. C’mon, you’re being unreasonable and thoughtless here. Why can’t you address my original comments? The Church has plenty of tax free land, it’s a violation of the first amendment to proselytize using public resources. If they have a display that requires any maintenance or electricity that’s public resources being usurped by a religious organization. Even if they’re just capitalizing on the fact that parks are kept clean, safe and welcoming, they’re exploiting taxpayer money and using it to advertise for their religion. Every other business has to pay for that privilege. Churches don’t even pay into the communities that support them.

3) I’m not sure I appreciate the vague threat of “see what happens” Are you threatening me?

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Oklahoma judge bars trans people from changing names →

socialistexan:

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fuzzyhorns:

Oh cool I’m a fraudster in Oklahoma. “Citing the Bible, Judge Bill Graves says transgender men and women are changing their names for ‘fraudulent purposes’”

This only has 6 notes because… Why? This is important people.

Yeah, when people bitch about how backward-ass Texas is, I always point them to one state north. Because shit like this.

So…

Oklahoma County district judge Bill Graves, a former state legislator, cited the Bible in disallowing the name changes

‘It is notable Genesis 1:27-28 states: “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.”

‘The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female.’

Tell me again why groups like Freedom From Religion are unnecessary. Please, remind me about how all this church-state separation stuff was solved years ago and that we should all drop it now, please. Now is the fucking time to speak up.

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Romney Suggests Obama Has Plans To Remove God From Currency →

Mitt Romney put God at center stage of his stump speech during a campaign stop in Virginia Beach Saturday. Alongside televangelist Pat Robertson, Romney made it clear, in case you were wondering, that he has no intention of taking the word “God” out of his party’s platform or off the country’s currency, reports Politico. It was a not-so-thinly-veiled attack against Obama and the Democrats, who took heat from conservatives for not mentioning God in their platform. They later reinserted it.

After leading a reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in the middle of his remarks, Romney began talking about God. “That pledge says ‘under God.’ I will not take God out of our platform. I will not take God off our coins. And I will not take God out of my heart,” Romney said to roaring applause from the audience. Romney also pledged to “rebuild America’s military might” to an audience that was heavy on military families, reports CNN.

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Several brave Democrats at this week’s convention stood up against Christian-, Israel-apologist bullies by loudly voting against putting unconstitutional, religiously-charged language into the platform.

I see this as a huge step. 20 years ago a reaction like this would have made the party look like the party of Satan. 12 years ago it would have been a scandal at least. 4 years ago it would have been discussed as a problem within the party and this year, the only ones who give a shit are Fox News. Who knows? Maybe in another 8 years, they really will stop talking about there sky daddy and start getting down to business.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney believes that “some” Americans have taken the separation of church and state too far, “well beyond its original meaning.”
In an interview released Tuesday with the Washington National Cathedral’s magazine, Cathedral Age, Romney said those who “seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God” aren’t acting in line with the Founders’ intent.
The separation of church and state is enshrined in the First Amendment of the Constitution, but Congress and the courts have debated the practical extent of that separation since its founding.
Romney said the Founders didn’t intend for “the elimination of religion from the public square. We are a nation ‘Under God, ‘and in God, we do indeed trust.”

In a masterful bit of deception here, Romney glosses over the fact that the founders never said anything along the lines of “one nation under god”

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney believes that “some” Americans have taken the separation of church and state too far, “well beyond its original meaning.”

In an interview released Tuesday with the Washington National Cathedral’s magazine, Cathedral Age, Romney said those who “seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God” aren’t acting in line with the Founders’ intent.

The separation of church and state is enshrined in the First Amendment of the Constitution, but Congress and the courts have debated the practical extent of that separation since its founding.

Romney said the Founders didn’t intend for “the elimination of religion from the public square. We are a nation ‘Under God, ‘and in God, we do indeed trust.”

In a masterful bit of deception here, Romney glosses over the fact that the founders never said anything along the lines of “one nation under god”

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Washington (CNN) — A Kansas church notorious for its angry, anti-gay protests at military funerals will continue the controversial practice despite new restrictions in a bill passed by Congress that awaits President Barack Obama’s signature.
“That’s really not going to change our plans at all,” Westboro Baptist Church spokesman Steve Drain told CNN on Friday. “We’re going to continue to do that. We’re also going to continue to obey all laws.”
The next planned protest is at a military funeral Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska, and Drain said: “We’ll be out there, doing our thing.”
Under provisions of a comprehensive veterans affairs bill that won final congressional approval Tuesday, protesters must be at least 300 feet from military funerals from two hours before they start until two hours after they end.
Violators could face unspecified fines and up to two years in prison.

Washington (CNN) — A Kansas church notorious for its angry, anti-gay protests at military funerals will continue the controversial practice despite new restrictions in a bill passed by Congress that awaits President Barack Obama’s signature.

“That’s really not going to change our plans at all,” Westboro Baptist Church spokesman Steve Drain told CNN on Friday. “We’re going to continue to do that. We’re also going to continue to obey all laws.”

The next planned protest is at a military funeral Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska, and Drain said: “We’ll be out there, doing our thing.”

Under provisions of a comprehensive veterans affairs bill that won final congressional approval Tuesday, protesters must be at least 300 feet from military funerals from two hours before they start until two hours after they end.

Violators could face unspecified fines and up to two years in prison.

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King of kings

Liberals and the Holy Bible.

joshua-garcia:

Liberals are always mocking Christians

Hyperbolic straw-man, I already take nothing you say seriously.

and calling us fake Christians

Non-sequitur: use of the word “us” has no reference point.

because we allegedly don’t care about the poor.

Combination non-sequitur (still don’t know who the “we” is) and straw-man (because we don’t know who the allegation is being made by.)

Liberals believes a true Christian should believe in socialism

Setting up a straw-man.

because in their eyes Jesus was a socialist.

Begging the question.

Now, what I find funny is: Liberals appeal to Christians principles

poor grammar

like giving to the poor when they want to push their liberal agenda,

poisoning the well

but they become enraged when Christians try to push other Christian principles like pro-life and traditional marriage laws.

“…principals like pro-life.” Son, can you read? Do you know the difference between an adjective and a noun? Because if you can’t clearly articulate your point, why should I think you clearly thought it through?

Furthermore, Christian principals like hetero-normative marriage only applies to Christians.

They say, “helping the poor is a public matter, abortion and marriage are private matters”.

So many grammatical errors!

What liberals fail to realize is:

:?

Christianity is about surrendering your entire life to Jesus, public and private matters included.

Yeah, well, you know it isn’t the government’s fucking job to push Christianity on people, right? Our laws are founded on principals of reason and enlightenment, not on some backward bronze-aged childish superstition about magic ghosts who live in the clouds.

The way you talk, behave and think.

This is not a sentence. Why should I take you seriously?

Liberals claim that Christians pick and choose, but liberals don’t realize they do it themselves.

Pick and choose what? Morality? First off, this is just another in a never-ending stream of straw-man arguments you’ve made. Second, there’s nothing wrong with picking and choosing your morality. Somethings are obviously morally objective, but other things aren’t.

Before you point the finger, make sure your hands are clean.

This is not a saying and it doesn’t make sense.

This reminds me of the time when Obama was at the prayer breakfast and used holy scriptures to support his ideals.

Right, how opportunistic of a president to do that. Only Obama has ever done that, right? And how inappropriate of the president to talk about his view of the Bible at a prayer breakfast, right?

Liberals loved the Bible then and didn’t complain. However if Bush used scripture to support his ideals, Liberals would be crying in the streets that Bush was forcing religion down their throats.

Uh, good thing Bush never did that? Dumbass.

I love poking fun at liberal hypocrisy.

Well, you’re really shitty at it, maybe you need some practice. Here’s some advice for you.

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Our latest billboard, HATRED, featuring Dr. James Dobson of the Focus On the Family hate group.

[The gay] agenda includes

… redefining the family to represent “any circle of people who love each other.”

- James Dobson

James Dobson has made a successful career from his hatred of gays and independent women. He rubs shoulders with the most prominent US politicians and is a wealthy best-selling author.

Serving as head of the hate group Focus on the Family, Dr. Dobson has even written a book for new parents with such gems as how to keep your child from turning out gay.

We got a copy as a gift, and threw it out.

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Iran Sentences Two To Death For Drinking Alcohol →

Two Iranians have been sentenced to death for drinking alcohol.

Islam.

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