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stellerby:

"One day in September 2008, Vander Woude’s 20-year-old son Josie, who has Down syndrome, fell through a broken septic tank cover in their yard. The tank was eight feet deep and filled with sewage. After trying and failing to rescue his son by pulling on his arm from above, Vander Woude jumped into the tank, held his breath, dove under the surface of the waste, and hoisted his son onto his shoulders. Josie was rescued a few minutes later. By then his 66-year-old father was dead.

This is something that any father, atheist or believer, might do for his son. But only the believer can make sense of the deed.

I’m sorry, what? Because I’m not religious I don’t have the ability to understand why I would want to sacrifice MY life for my own son? Absolutely ludicrous. 

Yeah, that’s a totally despicable framing. It suggests that atheists are heartless, nihilistic solipsists. (They must have been thinking of libertarians!) And couched within that framing is an argument from ignorance fallacy, but whose counting?

Source : stellerby
seaturtle-suitcase:

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where-my-sidewalk-ends:

When I was little and being bashed about the head with the Bible…I never could understand the reasoning behind Satan punishing the wicked when he obviously loved mischief and evil.   When I mentioned this to the cult leaders…the punishment lasted…week of hard labour, 2 days no food and lots of other little annoying fucking things.  I guess adults don’t like a child poking holes in their logic…lol :)

There’s you’re Christianity for ya there. Punish children for using their brains.

ok here is the logic behind the whole hell thing satan and lucifer are the same being lucifer was cast from heaven because god told the angels to worship and love humans as they loved god himself and lucifer refused because he could never love someone as much as his father when god threw him out lucifer decided to prove his point by creating a place to torture those who refused god 
It’s not a matter of how much lucifer loves mischief its a matter of how much he hates the human race

Kid, that logic is ridiculous because of the nature of the character God in the Bible. (Not to even mention that your failure to use the text to illustrate your point makes it seem like you pulled this out of your ass. Gimme a chapter and verse, man!) But even if you didn’t jus make this up, how could it make sense for God to permit the destination of souls to be beyond his grasp, it simply doesn’t follow. If God ordered this system in which humans live, then die, then continue on into some afterlife, how are the rules of transportation to that afterlife not something he has control over? Why couldn’t he do a better job explaining his command about loving humans to lucifer? Shouldn’t a god who is all-knowing know how to frame the argument to best appeal to this guy? Finally, the point of my comment was that religious instructors rarely engage in these kinds of apologetic shenanigans (frankly, because they might sound as idiotic as you do). Instead they tell children to shut up and obey because that’s truly what’s at the heart of every religion: wielding undue power over others. By the way, I poked around your blog a bunch and noticed you’re one of those fucking “where’s my white pride day” racists. So, fuck you for that too. I betting my Christian friends are eager to tell you off too, you sick fucker.

seaturtle-suitcase:

goodreasonnews:

where-my-sidewalk-ends:

When I was little and being bashed about the head with the Bible…I never could understand the reasoning behind Satan punishing the wicked when he obviously loved mischief and evil.   When I mentioned this to the cult leaders…the punishment lasted…week of hard labour, 2 days no food and lots of other little annoying fucking things.  I guess adults don’t like a child poking holes in their logic…lol :)

There’s you’re Christianity for ya there. Punish children for using their brains.

ok here is the logic behind the whole hell thing satan and lucifer are the same being lucifer was cast from heaven because god told the angels to worship and love humans as they loved god himself and lucifer refused because he could never love someone as much as his father when god threw him out lucifer decided to prove his point by creating a place to torture those who refused god 

It’s not a matter of how much lucifer loves mischief its a matter of how much he hates the human race

Kid, that logic is ridiculous because of the nature of the character God in the Bible. (Not to even mention that your failure to use the text to illustrate your point makes it seem like you pulled this out of your ass. Gimme a chapter and verse, man!) But even if you didn’t jus make this up, how could it make sense for God to permit the destination of souls to be beyond his grasp, it simply doesn’t follow. If God ordered this system in which humans live, then die, then continue on into some afterlife, how are the rules of transportation to that afterlife not something he has control over? Why couldn’t he do a better job explaining his command about loving humans to lucifer? Shouldn’t a god who is all-knowing know how to frame the argument to best appeal to this guy?

Finally, the point of my comment was that religious instructors rarely engage in these kinds of apologetic shenanigans (frankly, because they might sound as idiotic as you do). Instead they tell children to shut up and obey because that’s truly what’s at the heart of every religion: wielding undue power over others.

By the way, I poked around your blog a bunch and noticed you’re one of those fucking “where’s my white pride day” racists. So, fuck you for that too. I betting my Christian friends are eager to tell you off too, you sick fucker.

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where-my-sidewalk-ends:

When I was little and being bashed about the head with the Bible…I never could understand the reasoning behind Satan punishing the wicked when he obviously loved mischief and evil.   When I mentioned this to the cult leaders…the punishment lasted…week of hard labour, 2 days no food and lots of other little annoying fucking things.  I guess adults don’t like a child poking holes in their logic…lol :)

There’s you’re Christianity for ya there. Punish children for using their brains.

where-my-sidewalk-ends:

When I was little and being bashed about the head with the Bible…I never could understand the reasoning behind Satan punishing the wicked when he obviously loved mischief and evil.   When I mentioned this to the cult leaders…the punishment lasted…week of hard labour, 2 days no food and lots of other little annoying fucking things.  I guess adults don’t like a child poking holes in their logic…lol :)

There’s you’re Christianity for ya there. Punish children for using their brains.

Source : where-my-sidewalk-ends
topnotchbeats:

KushAndWizdom™ on We Heart It - http://weheartit.com/entry/29415446

This is called pascal’s wager and it’s completely idiotic. If you decide to “live like there is a god” in the off chance one exists, how can you decide which one to pretend to believe in? I say “pretend,” because you can’t choose what you believe in, you can only decide what is believable when the evidence for it convinces you. I sure hope you pretend to believe in a really gullible god who can be fooled by pretenders and not one of those omniscient gods who would be able to tell if you were just acting as if he existed.

topnotchbeats:

KushAndWizdom™ on We Heart It - http://weheartit.com/entry/29415446

This is called pascal’s wager and it’s completely idiotic. If you decide to “live like there is a god” in the off chance one exists, how can you decide which one to pretend to believe in? I say “pretend,” because you can’t choose what you believe in, you can only decide what is believable when the evidence for it convinces you. I sure hope you pretend to believe in a really gullible god who can be fooled by pretenders and not one of those omniscient gods who would be able to tell if you were just acting as if he existed.

Source : topnotchbeats

An increasingly undeniable FACT is that abject HATE for Christianity is on the rise in America. That is not to say that Christians are persecuted, it is to say that they are hated. Persecution, lest we remain vigilant, follows after.

modern-sidhe:

And yes, you CAN persecute a majority.  How many times do we see it argued that the super rich are persecuting the rest of us?

It must be true because you said it, right? You feel one way and, certainly, your experience as an instigator and a troll have in no way tainted your experience, right? Your anecdotal evidence [actual anecdote not even included] proves that hate against Christians is on the rise. You don’t need to define “hate” or quantify “the rise” it just IS, right?

Source : modern-sidhe

christiannightmares:

Mike Huckabee says he’s ‘not homophobic’ just on the ‘right side of the Bible’ (Found at Joe. My. God.; For a related post, click here http://christiannightmares.tumblr.com/post/29897274159/mike-huckabee-defends-todd-akin-forcible-rapes)

Another fine example of religion creating bigotry. Would he be a bigot without the religion? Maybe, but with the religion, he’s got cover.

Source : christiannightmares
academicatheism:

If Jesus Never Called Himself God, How Did He Become One?
When Bart Ehrman was a young Evangelical Christian, he wanted to know how God became a man, but now, as an agnostic and historian of early Christianity, he wants to know how a man became God.
When and why did Jesus’ followers start saying “Jesus as God” and what did they mean by that? His new book is called How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee.
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Scene from Monty Python’s Life Of Brian:BRIAN: I’m not the messiah!GIRL: only the true messiah would deny his divinity!BRIAN: Well, what sort of chance does that give me? Alright, I am the messiah!FOLLOWERS: He is the messiah! He admitted it!BRIAN: Oh, fuck off.

academicatheism:

If Jesus Never Called Himself God, How Did He Become One?

When Bart Ehrman was a young Evangelical Christian, he wanted to know how God became a man, but now, as an agnostic and historian of early Christianity, he wants to know how a man became God.

When and why did Jesus’ followers start saying “Jesus as God” and what did they mean by that? His new book is called How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee.

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Scene from Monty Python’s Life Of Brian:

BRIAN: I’m not the messiah!
GIRL: only the true messiah would deny his divinity!
BRIAN: Well, what sort of chance does that give me? Alright, I am the messiah!
FOLLOWERS: He is the messiah! He admitted it!
BRIAN: Oh, fuck off.

Source : NPR

Megachurch pastor resigns over 'moral failing' | Mail Online →

But I thought religion teaches morality?!

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jessroz:

Atheists, especially male atheists I’ve noticed, really disappoint when they claim they’re “scientific thinkers” and then claim anything about men “not being able to control themselves” as something biological or evolutionary.

Like do u realize that ur notions actually come from a…

Yeah, the flaw in their logical is called “The Naturalistic Fallacy,” the idea that things that are natural are superior is of course based on nothing. Whether or not men are predisposed to some natural inclination toward sexual assault isn’t the issue. We’re not naturally inclined to eat dairy, wear clothes or use kitchen appliances, but we do it anyway. If we can buck our human nature to eat a grilled cheese sandwich we can sure as shit not rape.

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beefpattyconqueso:

I hate that passive-aggressive shit my family likes to do when my atheism is the topic of discussion. For example: my aunt and I were heading to the supermarket and my cousin was asking questions. My aunt just says how she believes I’ll believe again because you can never stop believing. Then a…

Just remember that’s your family attempting to shield their beliefs from your logic. It’s not about aggression toward you, there being defensive because encased within any religious belief, is the compulsion to defend it against any challengers without actually having to hear out the challenge.

You can always just roll your eyes and check in with atheism blogs.

Source : beefpattyconqueso