Creationists Launch Their Assault on Science Education in Texas: Reviewers Push Publishers to Insert ‘Creation Science,’ Other Junk Science in New Biology Textbooks:
Now the veil is dropped. We already knew that creationists on the State Board of Education had nominated anti-evolution ideologues to sit on teams reviewing
Many of the reviews offer recitations of the same pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo anti-evolution activists — like the folks at the Discovery Institute in Seattle — have been promoting for decades. Never mind, of course, that each one of those arguments has been debunked by scientists (repeatedly). No, they are insisting that Texas dumb down the science education of millions of kids with such nonsense.
Even more astonishing is a demand that “creation science based on Biblical principles should be incorporated into every Biology book that is up for adoption.” Some of the reviewers are clearly oblivious to the fact that teaching religious arguments in a science classroom is blatantly unconstitutional. The U.S. Supreme Court has made that abundantly clear.
Santa and the easter bunny arent real but please please please believe that a really nice guy said he was gods son and that got him the only respawn in human history.
I didn’t claim to know anything about you. I now know, though, that the church you went to was probably pissed your family didn’t give more, but then again, that’s probably how they feel about, like everyone.
You don’t have to have knowledge of a god to believe there is or isn’t one, I believe I detailed that in my explanation of what “agnosticism” means. However, I can’t understand why you would believe something you have no knowledge of is true. Do you also believe krippkilbingers, an entity I just made up, is real? Why or why not?
OK, fine believe in a possibility, it doesn’t say anything about whether or not you believe in any gods.
goodreasonnews said: So, that’s basically what i said, but I understand a lot of people don’t mind when you point out what’s wrong with religion unless it’s Islam, then they’re very defensive.
I think that’s because Islam is a religion that is practiced by majority non-white people, and a lot of the backlash and criticism of it isn’t reasoned criticism but rather knee jerk racism. Islam is not REALLY criticized because it has a harmful message (which again, I know little about it so I imagine it’s about the same as the others), or anything like that - it’s because the people who practice it are brown and some of them have beards or wear clothes that the white West is not used to and some of them talk in foreign languages that have been stereotyped in our popular culture to sound scary.
So if someone is going to criticize Islam - and again, I prefer Muslims or ex-Muslims or religious scholars to do this because most of the rest of us are just talking out of our asses - they should be doing it from a standpoint and a position that is not steeped in those racist attitudes. And knowing what I know about Scandinavia and its serious xenophobia and racism issues, I’m pretty sure that the dude from ABBA is NOT doing that.
Plus I think it’s provably false that the problems in the Middle East come directly from Islam - that’s kind of like saying that chickens cause heart attacks because their eggs can raise cholesterol. It’s a factor but there is so much more to it than just “Human suffering is the effect and Islam is the cause.”
I think it’s more like saying tobacco causes cancer. Like, yeah, you have to be the one that uses it, but that doesn’t mean the tobacco industry is some passive innocent.
And yeah, I know you and I know that your thing is criticizing religion, and I’m all for calling out religious people who are being super gross hypocrites or are actively using their religion to shame or oppress others. But I don’t really see the need in criticizing individual religions because I personally say I’m not a fan of organized religion and that covers all the basis.
The takeaway point from this is that criticism of Islam from people (Westerners, usually white) who know very little about it cannot be separated from the racism in which it is steeped, even if that was not your intent. (Although I am 99.9% sure that was the intent of the dude from ABBA.)
I appreciate this and everything you post, I really do. I try to make the distinction between my criticism of religion and the religious. I don’t hate Muslims, I support their rights to be Muslims freely and openly if that’s their choice and I think they should have all the legal protections and right guaranteed by the US Constitution, even in other nations. But with that right, I demand that I can talk about why I think it’s a poor choice to embrace Islam or any other religion.
In America, the Muslim hate (which is different and distinct from my criticism of the ancient, superstition of Islam) is directed at mostly minorities. That sucks and I don’t ally myself with the Coulters out there who are just bigots for bigotry sake. But whenever I see religion, all I see is victims and dictators so close to being over thrown.
I find atheists to be hypocritical they claim that there is no way that we could know that there is a God. Yet they claim that they know that there is no God which is also impossible to know.
No, dude. Just. No. First off, atheism as a position isn’t the positive claim that there are no gods, it’s the denial of the positive claim that there is. I don’t know there’s no god any more than I know there’s no bigfoot or loch ness monster or invisible pink unicorns, but I don’t believe there are any of those things until you show me reason to believe.
I feel that humans do not posses the knowledge that there is or is not a God and we may never obtain that knowledge.
Well, why the fuck not? We possess the knowledge that there is or is not other things that exist or, at least, we have the ability to discover it. What is it about God that can’t be discovered and why do you think you know anything about a thing you yourself just called undiscoverable?
I honestly agree with agnostics because they do not have a definite belief about God.
Well, that’s because you don’t fucking know what “agnostic” means. No surprise, really, you don’t really know what an atheist is either. See, you buy into this church-created lie that agnosticism is some half way point between theism and atheism. It is not. Imagine four quadrants of understanding; One labeled gnostic theism, another labeled agnostic theism, a third labeled gnostic atheism and a final one labeled agnostic atheism. You see, the word, gnosticism describes knowledge, not belief. The word theism describes belief. A gnostic theist says they know for a fact (according to them) that a god exists. An agnostic theist does not claim to know, but believes it is true.
I personally believe that there is a possibility that some type of God exists or hey maybe there is no god who knows.
You believe there’s a possibility? That’s not a belief that’s a cop out. Do you or do you not believe? How could you even believe in the possibility? I mean, I believe in the possibility of a bigfoot because all the things about the creature described exist in the real world. Mammals, walking up-right, living in the woods, two arms two legs, fur, it’s all very plausible. God, on the other hand, lives in magic death land and floats around playing telephone with kneeling Earthlings and such. None of that exists in the real world, doesn’t seem very ‘possible.’
I’m sure a lot of people would rather be hopeful and believe in heaven over rotting in the fucking ground.
Oh, so it just comes down to what you want? Well, I want to believe I can fly, but that’s not gonna be a good excuse when I leap from a fourth story window. In the meantime, you can waste your life begging an imaginary ghost and giving greedy institutions 10% of your income while I cherish the only life that I actually know I have.
I just think there’s something really telling about his psychology that he glosses over his own abuse so easily, like he just wants the conversation over. I’m just not so ready to call someone who went through that, and who is obviously still struggling with it, a monster. Even if he’s wrong, I think it comes from more of a place of emotional defensiveness than a place of maliciousness.
I’m not saying he’s right.